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 Treacle (Treacle) posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 10:51 pm
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| Hello, we are expecting our first home bred litter of goldendoodle puppies early in May, ready for rehoming early July. Both parents have excellent hip scores, clear eye certificates and clear elbows. The dam is our family pet and is an F1 goldendoodle. The sire is a gorgeous F2 goldendoodle. Together they should make the most stunning puppies. All puppies will be vet checked, regularly wormed and go to their new homes after their first injection. They will be accompanied by puppy packs containing some food, a food diet and routine sheet, pedigree information, and we will expect any new owners to let us be involved should any puppy need to be rehomed at any time in the future. We will give all new owners as much input as they require. At the moment we are simply compiling a list of prospective owners. Please dont hesitate to get in touch if you need any further information. We are not breeders. This is our first litter and we simply hope to replicate our girls fabulous temperament and loving nature. Thanks. |
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| Dalmatian_mad (Dalmatian_mad) posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 5:21 pm
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*whats seems like forever ago* excusing my terrible typing and grammer here 
i'm at a sad loose end this afternoon because agility training was called off for snow
i train in the next county so while they had snow we had a boggy trudge through mud in the rain!
i just hope i've stopped a family from being ripped off.
we have the prime example of that at our training club. her breeder sold her as an F1 to an elderly couple for the very grand sum of £1200, for an untested x breed that they thought was something special. of course they couldnt cope with a very clever rapidly growing young dog and had to give her away. she now does agility and is good enough to compete and obedience. at not yet 3 years of age that dog has just passed her gold Kennel Club Good Citizen award! |
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| Bella1213 (Bella1213) posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 4:41 pm
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Thankyou so much Dalmation_Mad, for the brilliant information that you've given me. It's helped answer so many questions that I've had, really kind of you to find the time to help me out...
I will probably be back on here very soon picking your brain again!!!!!  |
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| Dalmatian_mad (Dalmatian_mad) posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 4:22 pm
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| this will see you right http://www.volhard.com/pages/pat.php |
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| Dalmatian_mad (Dalmatian_mad) posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 2:50 pm
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below you will find 2 documents i wrote whats seems like forever ago and are in need of review but you will find useful info in both.
Thinking about getting a puppy?
Puppies sold for pet homes are cheaper to buy than ‘show quality’. If you are going to buy a ‘pet home only’ pup then please be sure to spay/castrate at the first opportunity. The pup is being sold as a ‘pet home’ pup because your breeder has probably seen there is an undesirable trait that should not be bred back into the gene pool such as a poor bite or deafness. It is just as likely to be something cosmetic as something more serious but a good breeder will tell you. All you will have to do is ask something like ‘could you explain to me why this puppy is different to a show puppy?’ Or ‘why is this puppy for pet home only?’
You should always be able to see the pups with their mother. you can expect to see the pups from 4 weeks on and visit as often as is possible for you and your breeder.
* Never take a pup that’s younger than 8 weeks old.
* expect questions just as you breeder will expect questions from you.
A very good breeder will have a waiting list and the pups will be well socialised flea treated and wormed. You will be provided with a diet sheet and a life time of back up should you have any problems. Expect to sign a contract stating that if you need to rehome your dog he is to be returned to his breeder for rehoming.
Arrange to pick up your puppy as early in the day as possible so he has all day to get his bearings and settle in ready for that first night.
I like to crate train so this is my dogs bed from day 1. the crate will have fleecy blankets and a water bowl with some nice chew toys such as a kong or other solid rubber (unbreakable) toy. In the first few days keep the crate door open.
Your puppy will understandably be a little stressed out in his first few days with you and a crate will help him to feel more secure.
Please bear in mind your pup only has a small bladder so you will come down to puddles and prezzies in the morning. You will soon recognise his ‘I need a wee’ cry and he should be let out with no fuss and be put back to bed.
When your pup is yelling in the night for play or attention and you are quite sure he doesn’t need a wee don’t go to him. Instead stay in another room and in a firm voice say his name and ‘no’ if he does persist and you are sure your pup does not need to go out then you can go through to him and just say his name and ‘bed’ in the early weeks you will have to show your pup where ‘bed’ is and then you can leave him.
Puppies do 4 things eat sleep play and poop, your pup needs to be taught to go through the night as he doesn’t understand that this is whats required of him. He will get there and I know its hard to be woken up by a shrill puppy at 3am when he wants to play ball and then to come down for breakfast to puddles and prezzies but it does get better.
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unfortunately too many people are still buying from puppy farms so ive written this in the hope of pointing out some dos and donts regarding a new puppy, and to be perfectly frank the best way to stop puppy farming is to hit them hard in the pocket.
be aware and on your guard if the seller offers to come to your home or to meet you at a service station.
dont buy from pet shops thinking your will be rescuing the pup as it encourages the cycle and will soon be replaced by a whole new litter.
you can make sure yourself your breeder is a good one. he or she will ask you lots of questions and will be able to answer all of yours.
the mother should be calm and friendly; you should be able to visit the pups several times before you take them home.
your breeder will allow you to leave, or will provide a blanket that the pups have slept on for you to take home as this will help in the first few nights with you.
you may be provided with a diet sheet and some of the pup’s food and you should be able to call your breeder at any time during your pup’s life for help and advice.
dont be taken in by kennel club registration it is not a guarantee of your puppies health or temperament it’s only of use to you if plan to breed or to enter kc club competitions.
without it you can still compete - all of my dogs compete and not one is registered.
many puppy farm dogs are full of worms or carry fleas which have remained untreated and many suffer with mange and then there are the problems associated with your breed.
the parents may not have been screened for heart/eye defects hip/elbow scored or hearing checked.
the parents are very often not vaccinated which has led to people buying pups with parvovirus which is a terrible ordeal for your pup and you.
if you have come across a puppy farm or you are suspicious then please call the rspca cruelty line on 0870 555 999 |
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| Bella1213 (Bella1213) posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 1:33 pm
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Hi Dalmation_Mad, we are situated in Somerset....
I managed to find some rescue places online but a lot of the dogs were unsuitable for people with children. We've found a lady in Derby who has some Goldendoodle pups & I am waiting for her to send me some further info on them.
We want to make sure that she is a genuine seller & of course that she would be happy with us too!!!!
Very tricky (as I've said before) to know who's genuine & who isn't... Could you help me out with the type of questions that I should be asking??? Sorry if I sound stupid but we want to make sure that everything is right before paying out money & buying a pup!!! Thankyou |
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| Dalmatian_mad (Dalmatian_mad) posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 10:20 am
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ps
the only truely hypoallergenic dog is the australian hairless...because of the thick oils to protect the skin from the sunn the dander cant escape. |
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| Dalmatian_mad (Dalmatian_mad) posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 10:18 am
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sorry sasca but they do have very fine tufts of hair that would aggrevate a very asthmatic chest.
http://www.poodlesinneed.co.uk/blog
the site is out of date but Hannah has lots of poodles waiting.
http://www.yorkieandtoybreedrescue.co.uk/
how about checking with these guys for something along the lines of a bishon frise.
http://www.manytears.co.uk/
always so so many dogs here.
where in the country are you? i may be able point out a nice rescue in your area?
Geeraffe is right. i sigh when the poodle crosses walk through the club doors. usually young families thinking they have something special but all except 1 proved to be a nightmare because they are so high drive (wanting to work and do things all the time) the 1 that isnt high drive would be quite content on the sofa all day but thats 1 poodle x in the 5 years i've worked in training clubs.
some people see they are not progressing as fast as the other calmer breeds and drop out, we have just 3 successful labx's - all owners do obedience and agility 1 also does heel work to music while another focuses on trick training.
they are as smart as any collie and just as with collies if you dont work their mind they become frustrated which can lead to snapping. not the dogs fault but the owners not realising what they have.
we have an older couple come with a goldenx and although he has a nice life and goes for lovely (if ploddy) walks he is a git! we as trainers have to manage his environment or he will to his owners horror and ignorance snap at passing dogs.
the only other successful poodlex i've seen was in a 2nd generation shnauzerx.
if your still looking at poodlex breeds to buy make sure you dont buy F1 cross, this just means first cross but some low lives try to make out its something special. buy from a breeder with a proven line that way you should be able to meet both parents and with any luck some of the previous off spring.
a good breeder will not make out you are buying something you are not so if you even hear hypoallergenic then leave.
before you go to see the litter of cross breeds then reseach the parents on both sides for their genetic health conditions and ask for the related certs.
if your going to pay pedigree dog money ie £750 then make sure you get the service.
just to put it into perspective my boss has just brought a belgian shepard puppy from an excellent breeder, every health test available to the breed was carried out on both parents sides, every care was taken to give the pups the best possible start, there was a long waiting list and all new homes were vetted and carefully picked to make sure the pups didnt go to pet homes (ie a half hour walk round the block and no training). all this and lifetime back up and advice for £650.
as for me? i rescue every time. i currently have 2 dalmatians and a border collie
the collie was from here http://www.pupsneedinghomes.co.uk/
the dalmatians were from all dalmatian rescue (jan very often has other breeds waiting)
my shih tzu was a private rehome and my patterdale terrier came from the dogs trust (well worth a look!)
all were great with and around my kids but its what you put into them that counts even though they have lived with many dogs for over 10 years (i also foster) they are never left alone with even my own dogs, its just an animal and kids are unpredictable. if your childreb are bitten its your fault and not the dogs... |
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| Sasca (Sasca) posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 10:40 pm
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| chinese hairless!!! cant go wrong there with the asthma! |
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| Bella1213 (Bella1213) posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 8:45 pm
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Thanks for your input guys, it's def given me something to consider that I'd not before..... It's really difficult to know what's the best breed to get as we've gone on advice & research done over the past 3 months. We're willing to spend upto £750 to get the right dog but it's very scary to think that there's un-genuine people out there(puppy farms etc..)..... I have looked at rescue dogs but there seems to be a lot of rotti's & staffi's around, I am sure that they are very nice dogs but it's not what us as a family are looking for....
Thanks anyway & we will do more research etc. |
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| Geerarffe (Geerarffe) posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 7:40 pm
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| TBH I'd search again for other breeds that have been around for donkeys years with the same attributes you are looking for. As DM said the low shedding and good temperament is unreliable in these crosses. I've actually heard they can be harder to train than the individual breeds aswel. |
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| Dalmatian_mad (Dalmatian_mad) posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 3:06 pm
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oh dear. i'm afraid you like many before you have been mislead.
something crossed with poodle does not make an asthma friendly dog.
somthing crossed with poodle does not make a child friendly dog.
most who care about their breed (the poodle or *fill in blank here*) will not seek to create a 'doodle' breed. ok there are a few (but they are far between) that do care and will health test but for most its a money making venture.
as it happens this breeder does health checks and has a litter of golden retrieverxpoodle
her name is sarah rycroft, 01252 543 695 (details from dogs today magazine)
having said that there are plenty of unwanted poodles and poodle cross breeds (most shedding/moulting after a misrepresentation) in rescue. |
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| Bella1213 (Bella1213) posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 10:20 am
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Yes, you may ask!!!! We've researched a variety of dogs that are good with children & don't shed hair (my husband has asthma). We have been told that the "doodle" type of dogs are the best breed for us.....
There are so many doodle dogs for sale online & it's hard to know who's a genuine seller & who's not. I am hoping that someone on here will be able to help us out & rec or be a genuine seller themselves!!!! |
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| Geerarffe (Geerarffe) posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 9:53 am
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| Can I ask why the pup has to be of the 'doodle' variety? |
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| Bella1213 (Bella1213) posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 9:54 pm
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Hi,
We would love to offer a caring home to a Labradoodle or Goldendoodle pup. We are an animal loving family comprising of two adults & three children (6, 12 & 13). We have the time and commimitment to welcome, nuture & cherish a much longed for dog!!!! Although I work as a teacher during the day, my husband is around at all times day/night, so there would be always someone there with the pup. We have a big garden, plenty of space (my children have already earmarked a comfy spot on their beds for the pup!!)& much love to give a very longed for dog....
Thankyou!!!!! |
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