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Next message Sasca (Sasca) posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 9:39 am
Hi,

Just thought i would let you know that Pigginrescue- you have come accross fine and i dont think you need to explain yourself further.

I think Birdlovers first comment was fine as you do get an awful lot of fakes out there and it leaded you to answer and reassure most worries

Since neither of you have become aggressive to each other yet, why dont we just let it drop and concentrate on rehoming some animals? would hate for there to be another full out argument on here.

Good luck to both of you with your birds!
Next message Pigginrescue (Pigginrescue) posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 10:59 pm
Hopefully, the fact that I bothered to answer, and that I answered in full, is enough to tell you, and anyone else looking, that I am not the sort of person you assume/claim or make me out to be.

Unfortunately, you are not the first person that has had an opinion, and I very much doubt that you will be the last.

I've put everything I've got and had into building this rescue up from a few hutches in the garden and a name nobody had ever heard of, to having animals brought to me from the London PDSA (I am quite a way away from there) and having a good reputation locally, and a good rapport with people I have met through what I do, and people I have never even met recommending me by name. All it takes, is one person with an ill informed opinion, such as yourself, to undo all that hard work, and to make me look like some dealer or hoarder.

Are you not protective over something you cherish?
I am.... So yes, you have hit a raw nerve, by accusing me of being something I'm not.
You dont know me personally, you have never seen how the animals in my care, or my own pets are treated and kept, you have never seen any of my paperwork, surrender documents, adoption agreements, boarding forms or finances logs, yet you still see fit to be able to pass judgement on me and what I do without any factual information?

I was hoping, that by providing a lengthy response as you put it, that it may satisfy your need to get answers to all of your questions.

As for the cockatoo business, I still have the email you sent offering the male cockatoo a home, as a companion for your female cockatoo. In the said email, there is no offer of help as you claim, just a barrage of questions, which didnt need to be answered, as the boy had already been reserved pending a homecheck, as you were informed. I havent lied, which can be easily proved, and I certainly havent attacked you. I dont know you, so I am unable to pass comment on you personally, only from what I know of your assumptions and perception of me.

If you wish for me to copy and paste your email here to refresh your memory, please do ask, and I'll see to it.

I ALWAYS encourage people to come and see where their pet will be living before they hand over their pet. A reluctance to do so just tells me that they have little interest in the future wellbeing of the animal/bird, and that its probably better off here anyway! I have nothing to hide, and I am extremely proud of what I can offer, so have no hesitance at all in showing people around. I draw the line at my bedroom however. People can go through my bins and kitchen cupboards if they feel the urge, but SOMETHING has to remain sacred! There isnt anything sinister or nasty going on in there, but it is my haven, and always has, and always will be, out of bounds to anyone but me, and my 4 dogs of a night. I would feel extremely violated if complete strangers were to have the free run of my one and only room of peace and quiet.

As I stated in my initial post, if for any reason I am asked to take in a pet that I am not able to keep permanently, they will be informed BEFORE they hand the pet in, and will be able to decide whether to still leave the pet with me, or whether to go to another rescue that I would happily recommend.
In a few instances, I have been asked to take in a small animal that would normally be rehomed, but instead have been asked to keep them as my own, permanent fixture. This isnt something I am able to do for everyone, as I would soon be full up and not able to help any more animals, but will do it if it is specifically requested. I also have instances where animals are brought to me in such a state either mentally or physically, I am unable to rehome them anyway. For instance, a rabbit with mallocusion. She requires regular visits to the vet to have her dental work done, which is not something I would trust an adoptee to do, nor would expect them to pay out for. Some other rescues would have had her put to sleep as an unrehomeable creature, but she stays here happily with another (neutered) chap who isnt able to be rehomed either. I am then safe in the knowledge that her dental work is carried out as and when it should be, despite the cost involved on an already tight and strained budget.

Hopefully, this will explain a little more to you, that its not all about taking them in and sending them back out again for a quick buck. It just doesnt happen. I have, as explained, permanent residents, although none of this is explained on the website as I do not want to advertise what is here on a long term basis, as explained, due to a security risk. Most rescues would use these cases as a 'sponsorship' scheme to get money out of people to help keep them fed. This comes out of my pocket, nobody elses. I also wouldnt want to pulicise a picture of the animals that have previously faced neglect and abuse, for fear of anyone recognising that pet and confronting the previous owner (much as I would love to, I find it easier to calmly point out their mistakes and put it right, although I would love to be able to inflict the same pain and misery on them as they have to their animal)

If you have any serious questions you would like me to answer, please go ahead and ask away.

Its late, and I'm exceptionally tired and achy after a hectic day, so please excuse any grammatical or spelling errors. I can assure you that everything I've written however, is correct, and the entire truth.
Next message Birdlover (Birdlover) posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 12:30 pm
Well a lovely attack and lies about what I said in past!

All I have done is ask a perfectly good question so what does your answer tell me and everyone else?

I in fact said the opposite about the Cockatoo?? Maybe you are confusing me with someone else? Or just clutching at straws.

I have never shown a bad attitude, although I did offer you my help originally?

I have obviously touched a raw nerve by your lengthy response.

It is wonderful people can inspect your premises before surrending any birds to you or any other animals for that fact.

A good point to be made as well.

Anyone needing to rehome a beloved pet should alway check out where they are going to, and if they are told the pet will not be sold on should have that in writing as well from the people they give there pets too, a legal document and signed by both parties. Then if there were to see there pets being sold on they could take that person to court.

This is happening quite a lot a the moment by lots of very unreputable people.
Next message Pigginrescue (Pigginrescue) posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 6:23 pm
Birdlover,

I did not ignore your questions, I chose to ignore you as a whole, due to your attitude in the email.
My time is better spent finding homes, taking in animals than arguing the toss with someone that assumes they know better than I do.

In your email, you offered a male cockatoo a home, as a companion to your female cockatoo, then proceeded to preach to me about a conflict of interest in saying that the male cockatoo would be better suited to perhaps a breeding or aviary home due to his aggression!!! If you were as knowledgeable as you thought you were, you would have already known that cockatoos are one of the hardest species to pair up/bond sucessfully and it didnt seem to bother you that if paired up, they may have bred? Always ok if its you doing it isnt it?

I do not have to justify myself to you, as you have no productive interest in what I do, and dont do anything productive to help me, therefore you do not warrant any of my attention.

I will reiterate however, as I previously had to explain to someone else that also does not give away their animals, despite complaining that I too ask a donation, that the birds were advertised at a value price to discourage dealers attempting to get their hands on cheap birds to flog on. The actual donation fee for each of the birds was far lower than advertised, which GENUINE enquiries soon found out. ALL homes for the birds in my care are homevetted, as they are far more complex to care for than a small animal such as a rabbit. Just to clarify, I am NOT trying to say that the life or proper care of a small animal is any less significant...

I am fairly sure that the rescue you claim to be an active supporter of also does not give animals away. If they do, I can only assume they are highly irresponsible and have a bottomless bank account.

Also, being someone that claims to have an awful lot of knowledge on birds, should also know that I HAVE to be careful about what photographs are published online. This rescue is in MY HOME, and not only do I not want its contents broadcast for all and sundry to see, I also do not want all and sundry to be able to find out what animals and birds are in my home for security reasons. Surely not a hard concept to grasp is it?
As I state, I can provide references from many families that have happily placed their pets in my care, and still recieve regular updates and contact.
If the word of someone that has used my service and is pleased with it is no good, then nothing I can write or show pictures of will make any difference at all.

Anyone wishing to surrender their pet into my care is more than welcome to come and inspect the cages and aviary space I offer for themselves, and there is no pressure whatsoever to leave the pet in my care should they be unhappy with what they see.

My good intentions however, are repeatedly tarnished by people like yourself, who insist they know better, or know the sort of person they 'THINK' I am.
Anyone that has anything to do with animals will know that if done properly, there isnt a penny profit to be made from animals, and rightly so.

I do what I do, without making a penny, because I LOVE ANIMALS AND BIRDS and want to see them enjoy life and recieve the care they deserve. Perhaps its the concept that someone would actually want to open their home to strangers, and spend every penny they have and every waking hour spent working FOR NOTHING, expecting NOTHING in return, that is so difficult to understand?

So, if you have any further concerns about my rescue and how I run things, I strongly suggest you keep your opinions to yourself or report me to the relevant authorities, and perhaps direct your anger and attitude to the blatantly obvious dealers/hoarders etc etc out there that keep their animals in squalor.
Next message Birdlover (Birdlover) posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 1:53 pm
Hi,

I have contacted you in the past asking questions about the birds you sell on that have been rescued, including a cockatoo.

You ignored all my questions? You also put a high value on the birds your say you are rehoming with the permission of the previous owners?

Your photo gallery doesn't really show much on your website either, where are all the nice photo's of spacious cages and flights etc??

I'm sorry to be blunt, but there are lot of people calling themselves rescues who are making money out of geninue people giving up their birds thinking they will be looked after, how can you assure people you are genuine?
Next message Pigginrescue (Pigginrescue) posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 9:07 pm
Piggin Rescue in Milton Keynes is pleased to offer a permanent home to all unwanted cage or aviary birds.
Spacious living acommodation available, also large outdoor aviary with indoor flight available to aviary birds.
The bird sanctuary side of things is kept to a small scale to ensure that proper one to one attention is given, as all birds deserve, and we do not have a bird room packed to the hilt with cages!
A various assortment of birds from quails to cockatoos have been entrusted into my care, and I would be proud to provide references from happy families.
Regular contact is encouraged as reassurance of your beloved pets future welfare is of importance to you, and I like people to know what escapades and adventures their pet has been enjoying!

On rare occasions, we have been asked to take in a bird that we are unable to keep long term. If this is the case, you will ALWAYS be informed before you leave your pet in my care, and you will either be referred to another approved rescue, or be advised that a suitable home will be found for your pet once his/her temperament and health has been assessed.
All homes are vetted, and I NEVER rehome to anyone I am unsure of, or think would be an unsuitable owner.

If you are in the position of having to rehome your bird, please call or email for an informal chat, and we will try our best to help.

www.freewebs.com/pigginrescue
07938 764 523

Many thanks for looking
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